The problem is this mark was used from 1818 (muzzle loading period) until 1893, so that hardly narrows down the time frame. MANUFACTURERS. Too, seems to be an odd, long cut in the standing breech for the Greener Crossbolt. Without a photo, I can't add anything to what you already know: it's a handgun made in Belgium. I will have to upload some pictures later when I get to my computer. Shotgun relicThis is for a early 1900's Belgium made and marked with Royal Gun Works Belgium 16 gauge double barrel shotgun William Moore 7 Co. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. This one was engraved by Jules Eugne Schoffeniels. Anonymes of data available and a wealth of color pictures about the most typical pieces of his Bodson N. Post request for quotation and get multiple offers from manufacturers, 155MM HE 107 Full Zone 8 Charge with Electronic Fuze, Large quantity of surplus guns and exotic guns, BA 312 Semi-Auto Magazine Tube Tactical Shotgun, BA 912 Bullpup Mag-Fed Semi-Auto (2 Different Mold), BA 912 Special Cerakote Bullpup Mag-Fed Semi-Auto Shotgun. Nr. Underlever and side plates are engraved with a floral motif. Bernimolin & Cap Broqua & Scholberg CONTACT. Carl, I've checked Wirnsberger's Standard Directory of Proof Marks as well as those listed at Cornell Publications, and came up empty handed. Burrard, Major Sir Gerald. Sounds like a 19th C. Belgian pinfire shotgun (grin). Very good overall condition. American gun manufacturers moved away from Damascus barrels and on to tubes made from fluid steel. Original butt plate is very good, no chips or cracks. Inspectors mark, normally these are kept secret. A fine Antique Belgian Double barreled Flintlock sporting gun by Michel Berleur Liege with rainproof pans with safety-covers released by a spring-catch at the front of the steels. We offer a wide variety of antique firearms for the antique gun collector. Bertrand Antoine & Fils Hammers cock and function properly. I need help identifying the maker of this old double barrel side-level shotgun that is evidently made in belgium. See Kennett's # 2 and # 9 above. Walnut stocks are good with some field wear. Quick Facts The Modern Shotgun. Handsome English Sidelock double with hammers. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The A complete list of suppliers of shotguns. Don't know about the Star P. And I don't ever evaluate guns. Ancion Marx The typical Spanish best gun is a sidelock side-by-side game gun with chopper-lump barrels. Colot Whatever type of shotgun you want to add to your collection, you can be sure to find just what you're looking for here. Beau, I need help finding out more about this pistol.. leg in a circle star over the k in 3 places and a crown over jj and the name j. Cueruy and NR under the grip. ! Between 1847-1952 the stamp with the letter F-J C was used in the same purpose. Dear Shamsher, I can't help much without sharp photos, but it appears your gun is Belgian, made in Liege, no earlier than 1893. Chartier Any help would be appreciated. . Good overall condition. It has been just recently released but has received some exposure in the gun blogs. Pictures would help! Check your syntax! The lack of chamber length probably means it was made before 1892.Is there a name on it? Overall length is 43". How does it open? Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for (STGUN52) Advert5x4" For Reliability Always Choose Laurona, Gunmakers, Spain at the best online prices at eBay! You can easily choose the shotgun you need on Ammoterra.com. 3 vols. ('Manufacturer') Home > Product Catalog Shotguns made in Belgium category Firearms/ Small arms 731 Rifles 237 Shotguns 359 Pistols 134 Blank/Signal/Rubberball pistols 1 Black powder/Muzzleloader 2 Ammunition 3 Ammunition Components/Reloading 20 In England, the second charter of the Gunmakers' Company granted in 1672 marked the beginning of the official proving of arms, but it did not apply to weapons made elsewhere in the Kingdom, provided they were not offered for sale in the London market. Black powder proof for rifles and shotguns. This printed and hardbound book, written in English and French by Alain Daubresse, provide an extensive insight about the gunmaking activity in Belgium from its very beginning to the middle of the 20th century. I have two sets of wood handles and artillery holster with marks of 7 ; 44; 105C. Underside of barrels have French proof marks. (Improved) Nr. Since the evolution of the modern side-by-side and over/under hammerless shotguns in the late 19th Century, Belgian gunmakers have turned out some of the best. gunmakers treated in this first volume are : Albini BraendlinAncion & C [Later note: Gerhard Wirnsberger has written. It's an old Belgian made SXS 12 gauge, marked "Lancaster Arms Co." From doing a little research on the proof marks, I think it was made sometime just pre-WWI. It is a 12 gauge with 70mm = 2 3/4" chambers. Can you send me some, Ed? Christophe Henri Barrels are 30". This is a rare 20 gauge August Lebeau double barrel shotgun, side locks, extractors, factory 2 3/4 inch chambers, ordered and shipped in 1912 to Russia. 1848. Damascus barrels are 32" choked cylinder. Damascus barrels are approximately 30". With 26-inch open-choked barrels, it is a 6.5 pound delight. Belgian Arms cie The Liege proof house was established in 1672 and it is the oldest European proof house still in operation. Handguns, shotguns, machine guns, battle rifles Seekins Precision Glen Seekins Seekins Precision United States Civilian S&T Motiv S&T Holdings Co Ltd South Korea Military S&W Horace Smith and Daniel B. Wesson Smith & Wesson: United States Various: Savage Arthur Savage Savage Arms: United States SCCY SCCY Firearms: United States Seraphim Armoury . He was registered with the Liege Proof House from 1896 to 1947. It's as useful in a duck blind as it is . Thomas Jefferson. Jules Bury advertising from the 1930ies.Courtesy of littlegun.be. Arnold Mathias Action works properly. . cardboard cover and the paper used for the printing was of the high glossy type and Sorry I can't be more helpful. Side by side field gun manufactured in the 1860's. 13. Other than the diameter stamp, I don't see a 70mm stamp. The Great Exhibition of 1851 in London did much to publicize Lefaucheuxs system. Hammers cock and function properly. Manufactured in the 1860's. How do I price this piece? thanks for the help so far. Translated to English. Most shotguns have smoothbore barret to be able to use shells which are grouped by gauges (instead of rifles caliber) - they indicate the weight of the ammunition fired. A Adaptive Tactical Shotguns American Tactical Shotguns B Baikal Shotguns Barrett Shotguns Benelli Shotguns Beretta Shotguns Blaser Shotguns Browning Shotguns C Century Shotguns Charles Daly Shotguns Chiappa Shotguns (Not safe to shoot with modern shells.) Bastin Frres Good overall condition. lew wallace 811 375 Veteran of the Regiment Aug 26, 2020 #2 There's a brand new book out on this subject of Belgian guns which would undoubtedly meet your needs. Baker, David J. As for proof marks, the oval with E/LG/* inside makes it indeed Belgian. Markings on gun barrels and other gun components that indicate the level of pressure, calibre and standards that a weapon is fit for in service.. Fakes and fraudulentmakers' marksare not a recent invention--note what William Greener said in 1835 (seemy earlier post of April 20, 2014). into which each separate book is dealing with a small portion of the whole, and that is Shouldn't be hard to find! Bodson TH. Even in the white you can see its quality. Quality: Our mission is to preserve old firearms catalogs at a reasonable price before they are all gone, but our reprints are NOT forgeries of originals, they are exact copies of the originals but not necessarily the exact size or on the original paper or with the original binding. GunID: 4746. Ithaca opened in 1883 and built a number of different boxlock-style side-by-sides, including the Crass . 14. The gun was restocked with a new buttstock. Metal has an even brown patina. Very appealing Belgian made double manufactured in the 1890's. f you want to know how it once might have been engraved, have a look at this beautiful Louis Christophe Sidelock made by Jules Bury. is 1.220 kg (43.00 oz). The same stamp but smaller is found on Flobert guns, selfloading pistols with a excess proof pressure of 50%, on barrels of top break guns for Flobert or revolvers cartridges an excess pressure of 30% and or revolvers which are proofed with 30-50% excess loads. Heyday of the Shotgun: The art of the gunmaker at the turn of the last century. Antique Shotguns (Pre-1899): Belgian Shotguns, Side by Side Shotguns Our inventory of antique shotguns is made up of shotguns manufactured before 1899, including English, French, and Belgian shotguns. Clment Walter Chambers are 2 3/4". Thanks Hause. Good overall condition. A forum community dedicated to Shotgun owners and enthusiasts including the Remington, Beretta, and Mossberg shotguns brands. This mark is found on guns that is not made in Belgium by countries that use proofs that is not recognized by the Belgian Proof House. A handsome and unusual shotgun. Hammers function properly. I have got a 19th century belgian double barrel pin fire shoutgun with walnut stock(116cm). An interesting pinfire shotgun. I have not fired it. The makers mark was in use for over a hundred years. I have pictures If you need them. 7. H&H style locks are practically universal, as are double underbolts leaving a clean breech face, double triggers and selective ejectors. and hardbound book, written in English and French by Alain Daubresse, provide an extensive Any info will help. Long Beach, CA: Safari Press, 2000. it was my grandfathers and has been in the family for a while. Thanks to Raimey Ellenburg we can enlight it a little bit more: If load data is present on the tubes, it saw manufacture between 1897 1903. Good examples of the information that can be derived from adequate images. The crude VIII on each barrel aren't proof marks but a means to ensure matching tubes for this set of barrels. manufacturers identifying marks, more commonly referred to as Proof Marks, Arsenal or Inspector Marks Damascus barrels are 29". Charlier Ch. Bottom or receiver is marked "Harvey Exeter" and "Patent No 4395". Please - no questions about your old guns. I picked this up a few years ago in the bargain bin at a gun shop. A fine antique 18th Century Double Barreled English Percussion Sporting Gun by the famous maker Henry Nock London, caliber 14 mm . If not, consider it loaded and potentially dangerous. Bernard Ernest Proof Marks or "Proofs" as they are sometimes referred to have changed over time, therefore assisting in dating the arm. Some of the links in the first post are inactive and can not be edited. Hammers cock and function properly. Cachoir Choke constriction, together with barrel dimension this can give a brief view of the choke. Very good overall condition. vast quantity of data to treat, the global work was parted in a series of publications, Thanks Brandon. Breechloaders had existed previously, but Casimir Lefaucheuxs 1835 invention of the pin-fire cartridgea cylinder with a pin extending at right angles to the base which detonated a fulminate charge in the cartridgequickly led to better breechloading systems and to the development first of rimfire and then of centerfire cartridges.Dating pin-fire guns: the 1835 date of Lefaucheuxs invention gives us a convenient terminus a quo: if the pin-fire wasnt invented until 1835, any pin-fire gun cannot be earlier than 1835. Counet-Leboulle J. Clement, Charles Pistol and revolver manufacturer in Liege, Belgium, c.1886-1914. Barrels are 33". Be sure to bookmark our new arrivals page and check it often. Bovy Thodore Joseph SCH or EC is abbreviations of the powder: SCH meaning Schultze. Sidelocks are marked "Army & Navy CSL London" and are nicely scroll engraved. Bazin F.J. Shotgun Serial #1656 - early production made 1903-1939 - by Fabrique Nationale in Belgium with Browning patent dates I'm still working on a date and it seems like narrowing it down by what years it could'nt be from might be a better strategy. Hi, Jeremy. Stevans): cant verify it is Maj. Doan, but on his hip is a pistol, which looks alike a 7 in. I also looked at other European proof marks but didn't find the one you mention: compare http://www.cornellpubs.com/Catalog/proof-marks-intl.pdf. If there is no Lion over PV, the gun was NOT proved for smokeless powder. The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time. Sent from my SM-J727V using Tapatalk Aug 26, 2020 #3 Here ya go! My best guess is that it's a maker's mark, but of course I could be wrong. It was special ordered by a Mr. Hobden and crafted to his specifications. For sale is a unique old Damascus steel Very large double barrel 10 ga shot gun. A.H. Fox guns came in 12-gauge, 16-gauge, and 20-gauge. Serial: 40593. This continued for many decades. Jules Bury advertising from the 1930ies.Courtesy of littlegun.be. Now represents definitive black powder proof except for muzzle loaders, This mark is found on barrels and locks after voluntary semi-smokeless proof, Standard smokeless powder proof on military rifles below 8mm caliber.1898-present, Standard smokeless proof for all arms.1903-present, Mark applied to barrels which failed proof and have returned to makers for reworking. Very little: I'm assuming it isn't a muzzleloader but a breechloader, which means it could be as early as 1860-1865, say. If you are considering buying a Belgian gun, look long and hard atits quality. Good overall condition. The one on the far right is the definite proof for nitro, or smokeless powder. . The Browning website features a page where you can search for your firearm's serial number or click on the model to locate the serial number. Around the 1880s, Damascus barrels became an object of the past. Bernard Victor & Cie Makers - Darne, Merkel, Arrieta, Beretta, Browning, Holland, Purdey, Richards, Bernardelli, Parker, Fox, LC Smith, and most other double barreled shotgun, gun and double rifle makers. Baltus - Wilmotte Gun Barrel Proof Marks. only 70 i see is the 70above the D = above where it says 20.7 i dont know what those numbers mean. Can you pleasure us with a pic of the side view of the tubeset top rib extension to accept the Greener crossbolt? A reader hasasked me to say something aboutBelgian proof marks. Once tested and successful the weapon was stamped with a seal to acknowledge the testing - called "Proof Marks". Area Code: 804. Barrels when disasembled are marked with Belgian proofs near chambers. I suspect the gun is a Janssen. Worldwide Logistics for all your products. Counet - Genot Caliber 15mm, length 122cm. Belgium double barrel 16 Gauge SN 13938 preBelgium double barrel 16 Gauge SN 13938 pre 1898 fine old Belgium imported exposed hammer shotgun, Leige proofed, floral engraved receiver showing some; FINE 19C. Gauge: 10 gauge. For other antique firearms, check out our antique handguns, antique long guns, and old ammo, tools & neat stuff. Locks are engraved with scenes of dogs on point. These marks tell the country of origin of the weapon. Closset Louis Comblain The "Military Factory" name and MilitaryFactory.com logo are registered U.S. trademarks protected by all applicable domestic and international intellectual property laws. Bayet Frres Action works properly. 2 Hammerless 12 Gauge Parker Bros. (copy right L.R. Browning firearms have been traditionally made in locations world-wide. Antiquegunlist.com is the leading provider of antique guns for sale. Bonzon & Arents & Cie The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. In its small version its a acceptance mark on barrels that was exported in a unfinished state 1846-1893, In its small version its a black powder mark on small pistols and revolvers barrels 1866-1893, In its small version its a black powder mark on small revolvers cylinders 1866-1893. Dallas, Donald. Mark for voluntary treble temporary or provisional proof on unfinished barrels, Mark for voluntary double temporary or provisional proof on unfinished barrels. Judging by the comments that appeared when I Googled "spesco corporation," your guess is on target. Stock has an old crack near wedge on left side. Original Ithaca butt plate is not chipped or cracked. Revolving Carbine / Shotgun. Stocks are good with minor nicks and dings. You can tell an unaltered pin-fire by the vertical slot in the breech extending to the top of the barrel (and, of course, the absence of a firing pin). Shotgun Serial *Belgium Browning A5 Automatic 12 ga. fair bore, good stock, 22'' barrel, Used aboard ship for firing a bomb lance or harpoon, circa 1850s. Unmarked as most are. Damascus barrels are 36". M Mecar (4 P) Pages in category "Firearm manufacturers of Belgium" This little sixteen is a fine example for the Belgian craftsmenship and will be even today a perfect gun for upland hunting. Always found in conjunction with the stamps above, which would indicate type of powder. Bultot Jean On barrels and actions of smoothbore guns with the gauge size (or nominal bore) plus the shell or cartridge case length. The gun has 72 cm barrels and weighs only 2,8 Kg. The next guns carrying the Browning name were manufactured in Belgium. Handsome pinfire double manufactured in the 1860's. By Alain Daubresse. Stock has a repaired crack behindlocks. Barrels are not rifled- does this mean it must be a shotgun? Marks visible are crown-over-U (final proof) and eagle-crown-over-S (smoothbore) and -W (choked). Locks are marked Charles Daly and are scroll engraved. If you are interested in import, export, or wholesale purchase of shotguns, theres no better place than AmmoTerra to find a buyer or supplier of military equipment. Error, no Advert ID set! Hammers cock and function properly. Email: Info@hlebooks.com Damascus barrels are 32". Beckers G. Ithaca Gun Company: One of America's most successful gun makers. Bernard Lambert Description 12 GA. Please have a look around. Belgian Pinfire. I think it was made 1890 but not sure. The wood does not look ancient so I am guessing in the 1970s or so. Belgian gun makers of that era were notorious for blatantly copying other makers firearms, using names that were close to famous makers such as "W Richards" for "Westley . Then emigrated to Belgium at the end of 1859. On the bottom of the barrel it has the proof mark like number 9 (E,L,G,) (no crown). No maker's name at all. Locks are scroll engraved and marked "C. G. Bonehill". But despite the history the belgian proof stamps are rather straight forward, normally one can't get more information from the proof more than it has been done if one can't find the inspectors mark. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, Brandon, but I've been out of the country w/o internet access. Add to Cart Compare. I found a couple on this site and also nramuseum.com leading me to believe its a British or Belgian gun. United States Police prefers using shotguns because of their comparably simple usage and aiming for close and mid-range fighting. To my knowledge, there isn't a book out that covers European proof marks: If someone knows about such a book, please add a comment with that information. Baron Emile Locks are scroll engraved and marked "J. Manton & Co.". Debouxthay was a gunmaker in Liege, Belgium, active at least from 1888-1904. This is a typical 16 gauge of the period between 1912 and 1939. Nessonvaux is short drive outside of Liege. See all my Guns on Guns International Click on Link You may know how to do this: put the ramrod down the barrel and mark it with a pencil at the muzzle. outlawman7 - The reason for a lack of response here may be found in the post immediately above yours. Thanks a ton this, helped me identify a friends old revolver. To make purchases and use the full site services, register or login your account. 1890. A fantastic 10 gauge sidelock from a quality manufacturer. The crowned R was for revolvers after semi-smokeless proof and 50 % excess pressure. Comblain H. J. For information, questions, or comments, call us at (877) 214-9327 or email [emailprotected]. After 1924 fractions of grams were no longer used 1892 - present 1K355.5 17 Side by side shotguns of this era are highly collectable and our inventory changes frequently. Do you have any knowlege of pinfire double barrels? If you can, send me a photo: ghcox3@gmail.com.Best,Gerry, Gerry;I just sent you a photo of what I believe are the proof marks of a Belgium made double barrel 10 gauge shotgun. Bouquin Ad Double Barrel Shotgun. Thank y'all for your help ahead of time! Manufactured in 1892. Subcategories This category has only the following subcategory. Length of pull is 14 5/8. There's no indication of chamber length--but that didn't begin until 1892.The other marks I can't identify.So what can I tell you? Thanks for any help you can offer.Rick dwonczyk, I found one with elg with a star underneath in a circle but there was also a T with a star above it and the letter S also on the cylinder pin fire solid erase revolver with a collapsible trigger was told it was .31, Hi, Rick. Colt Firearms Can you add any details? Would that appear at this location on the piece?What Im attempting to do, is get this pistol appraised; thus the research to discover all the markings. 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